The most compelling image of the 28th Conference of the Parties of the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change—otherwise known as COP 28—will always be the chairman Al Jaber’s fight with Mary Robinson, in which he declared that “There is no science out there, or no scenario out there, that says that the phase-out of fossil fuel is what’s going to achieve 1.5C”. He followed up with “Please help me, show me the roadmap for a phase-out of fossil fuel that will allow for sustainable socioeconomic development, unless you want to take the world back into caves.”
It’s little wonder that the head of the Abu Dhabi National Oil Company would claim that phasing out fossil fuels only makes sense if you “want to take the world back into caves”. What is a wonder is that his self-serving arguments are supported by predictions of the “optimal” level of global warming in the refereed economic literature.
The objective of the Paris Agreement signed at COP 21 was to limit the increase in global average temperature to 1.5°C, and at most 2°C, and to do this in part by achieving net zero carbon emissions by 2050.
However, far from recommending net zero CO2 emissions by 2050, “Nobel” Prize winner William Nordhaus {Nordhaus, 2018} claimed that properly balancing the costs of climate change against the costs of abating it would see CO2 emissions peak at 40 gigatons a year in 2050, and they would still be positive in 2100 {Nordhaus, 2018, Figure 2, p. 347}.
Furthermore, under Nordhaus’s “optimal” global warming management path, the temperature increase would reach 3.5°C in 2100, and it would still be rising {Nordhaus, 2018, Figure 4, p. 348}.[1] Nordhaus’s most recent version of the Dynamic Integrated Climate-Economy (DICE) model reduces these numbers somewhat {Nordhaus, 2023}, but his so-called optimal levels are still far higher than the targets set by the Paris Agreement.
So, was Al Jaber actually correct? Should we continue using fossil fuels, with their phasing out not occurring until the 22nd century—when, in all likelihood, there would be no economically recoverable oil left? Should we just keep on burning until the early 22nd century, to enable the poor to benefit from “sustainable socioeconomic development”?
Mainstream economists certainly think so. The behavioural economist Hersh Shefrin stated that “Al Jaber’s remarks are consistent with the scientific assumptions underlying Nordhaus’ model”, and argued that Al Jaber was correct that “too rapid a phaseout” would do more socioeconomic harm than good:
Nordhaus’ model supports Al Jaber’s contention that the economic costs of too rapid a phaseout would outweigh the benefits. Indeed his model implies that a 2-degrees Celsius goal is far superior to a 1.5-degrees goal, even if climate damages are double his assumed values. Al Jaber is an economist, and his perspective is consistent with mainstream economic analysis. {Shefrin, 2023. Emphasis added}
Mainstream economics, in other words, implies that the politics has gotten too far ahead of the economics, and Al Jaber has done us a favour by calling for some balancing of ecological wishes against economic reality.
If only! Unfortunately, Shefrin’s analysis goes wrong when he uses the word “scientific” to describe the assumptions in Nordhaus’s “Integrated Assessment Model” DICE. The assumptions in DICE are anything but scientific. In fact, in all my years of critiquing mainstream economics {Keen, 2011}, I’ve never read anything quite as delusional as the work of Nordhaus and his colleagues on the economics of climate change {Keen, 2023; Keen, 2020}.[2]
The key fatal flaws in their analysis are their ridiculously low estimates they have made, using ridiculously bad methods, of the damages that global warming will do to the economy. Even if the Ramsey growth model {Ramsey, 1928} at the core of DICE, FUND, PAGE and other IAMs was a perfect description of reality—and it is far from that—then feeding in the numbers that economists have made up about global warming into those models would still vastly underestimate the damages that it will do to the economy. It’s all in the numbers, and the methods they’ve used to make up those numbers are statistical nonsense.
They have assumed that only industries directly exposed to the weather will be affected by global warming, so that most of the economy will be “negligibly affected by climate change.”
The most sensitive sectors are likely to be those, such as agriculture and forestry, in which output depends in a significant way upon climatic variables… Our estimate is that approximately 3% of United States national output is produced in highly sensitive sectors, … and about 87% in sectors that are negligibly affected by climate change. {Nordhaus, 1991, p. 930. Emphasis added}[3]
Nordhaus’s list of “negligibly affected” sectors included all of manufacturing, all wholesale and retail services, finance, government, much of utilities, and even mining {Nordhaus, 1991, Table 5, p. 931}! He later amended this to “underground mining” and therefore cut his “negligibly affected” estimate from 87% to 85% {Nordhaus, 1993, p. 15}, but this simply confirmed that he equated “exposed to climate change” with “exposed to the weather”. All subsequent papers by Neoclassical economists have retained the assumption that only industries exposed to the weather will be affected by climate change.
They have assumed that today’s weak relationship between income and temperature can be used to predict the impact of global warming:
Mendelsohn assumes that the observed variation of economic activity with climate over space holds over time as well; and uses climate models to estimate the future effect of climate change. {Tol, 2009, p. 32. Emphasis added}
They have assumed that empirical relationships derived from data on change in temperature and GDP between 1960 and 2014 can be extrapolated out to 2100—thus assuming that 3.2°C more of global warming won’t alter the climate!:
an increase in average global temperature of 0.04°C per year [from 2020] … reduces world’s real GDP per capita by 7.22 percent by 2100. {Kahn, 2021, p. 3}
They have assumed that tipping points—critical features of the Earth’s climate such as the Greenland and West Antarctic icesheets, the Amazon rainforest, and the “Atlantic Meridional Overturning Circulation” which keeps Europe warm today—can be tipped with only minimal additional damage to GDP:
Tipping points reduce global consumption per capita by around 1% upon 3℃ warming and by around 1.4% upon 6℃ warming, based on a second-order polynomial fit of the data. {Dietz, 2021, p. 5. Emphasis added}
Finally, they have assumed that an experience as unknown and radical as altering the planet’s climate can be modelled using the second-simplest mathematical function of all, a “pure quadratic” (or “second-order polynomial”) with only a single parameter. The only simpler function is a straight line through the origin, which asserts that the variable of interest is equal another variable multiplied by a constant.
A pure quadratic asserts that the damage done by global warming to the economy is equal to a constant times the value of global warming squared. The only parameter to estimate is the value of the constant, and in Nordhaus’s DICE, it is a very small constant: 0.003467 or 0.3467%. Nordhaus claims that 1 degree of warming (which we’ve already exceeded) will reduce global GDP by 0.35%, 2 degrees by 4 times 0.3467% or 1.3%, 3 degrees by 9 times 0.3467% or 3.1%, and 4 degrees by 16 times 0.3467% or 5.6%.
These damages are trivial simply because, with a parameter as low as Nordhaus’s, his damage function predicts minor damages until the temperature rise gets into the teens. To illustrate that this is simply assuming the result they wish to give, Brian Hanley and I fitted the NOAA “Billion Dollar Damages Database” to three functions: the quadratic that Neoclassical economists conventionally use, an exponential, and a logistic—see Figure 1. The quadratic predicts damages of about 10% of GDP by 2100; the logistic predicts GDP’s total destruction by 2100, and the exponential predicts it before 2080.

Figure 1: Comparing three damage functions {Keen, 2023, Figure 9, p. 39}.
Nordhaus claims that the choice of a quadratic was based on “recent reviews”:
Based on recent reviews, we further assume that a quadratic damage function best captures the impact of climate change on output (Nordhaus and Moffat, 2017; Hsiang et al., 2017).
However, this alleged foundation is nonsense. Nordhaus is the lead author of one review he cites {Nordhaus, 2017}, and he surveys exclusively the work of other economists. This is like Al Capone surveying his own gang and using their answers as character references.
The other paper “Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States” {Hsiang, 2017} is not a review, but just another paper making the same assumptions ridiculed earlier, that current data (in this case, from 1981 to 2010) can be extrapolated to predict the impact of global warming until 2099 {Hsiang, 2017, pp. 1362-63}, and that only industries exposed to the weather will be affected by global warming.[4] It reaches even more ridiculous conclusions about the economy’s capacity to exist at extremely high levels of global temperature increase:
the very likely (5th to 95th percentile) range of losses at … 8°C warming is 6.4 to 15.7% GDP. {Hsiang, 2017, p. 1365}
This claim highlights another deceptive absurdity of these economic papers: they report what might sound like large figures for economic damages—such as the prediction in “Global non-linear effect of temperature on economic production” by Burke, Hsiang and Miguel {Burke, 2015} of a 23% fall in GDP in 2100.[5] But these predictions are relative to a future GDP which is assumed to be much higher than today’s. When their terminal predictions are converted into reductions in expected growth rates until that terminal date, they are obviously predicting trivial damages, as Table 1 illustrates.
Table 1: GDP Damage to Growth Rate Fall Converter for a sample of economic papers
GDP Damage to Growth Rate Fall Converter
| Paper | Prediction | Date for Prediction | Degrowth p.a. |
| Authors
|
Date
|
GDP Loss
|
D°C Pre-Ind
|
Future year
|
Relative to
|
Years
|
|
| Burke, Hsiang, Miguel
|
2015
|
23.00%
|
4.0
|
2100
|
2020
|
80
|
-0.33%
|
| Kalkuhl & Wenz
|
2020
|
14.00%
|
3.5
|
2100
|
2020
|
80
|
-0.19%
|
| Howard & Sylvan
|
2021
|
20.00%
|
7.0
|
2220
|
2020
|
200
|
-0.11%
|
| Kahn, Mohaddes, Ng
|
2020
|
7.22%
|
4.0
|
2100
|
2020
|
80
|
-0.09%
|
| Nordhaus
|
2018
|
8.60%
|
6.0
|
2100
|
1900
|
200
|
-0.04%
|
| Nordhaus
|
1994
|
6.70%
|
6.0
|
2090
|
1900
|
190
|
-0.04%
|
| Nordhaus
|
1994
|
3.60%
|
3.0
|
2090
|
1900
|
190
|
-0.02%
|
| Warren, Hope, Gernaat
|
2021
|
3.67%
|
4.0
|
2100
|
1890
|
210
|
-0.02%
|
| Nordhaus
|
1991
|
12.00%
|
3.0
|
2100
|
1900
|
200
|
-0.01%
|
| Nordhaus
|
2023
|
3.12%
|
3.0
|
2100
|
1765
|
335
|
-0.01%
|
| Hsiang, Kopp, Jina
|
2017
|
15.70%
|
8.0
|
2099
|
1995
|
104
|
-0.16%
|
Hsiang et al.’s paper predicts that an increase in the average global temperature of 8°C compared to the 1980-2010 average—which is far beyond what anyone expects, but that’s the number they provide—would make GDP in 2099 just 16% smaller.[6] This converts to a predicted fall in the annual rate of growth of just 0.15%—barely above the accuracy with which actual change in GDP is measured today.
These papers categorically do not tell us what global warming is going to do to the economy. They simply tell us that economists have no idea what global warming actually means.
A survey of climate scientists turns up very different predictions, like this one by Xu and Ramanathan, that more than 5°C of warming implies “beyond catastrophic, including existential threats”:
The current risk category of dangerous warming is extended to more categories, which are defined by us here as follows: >1.5 °C as dangerous; >3 °C as catastrophic; and >5 °C as unknown, implying beyond catastrophic, including existential threats. {Xu, 2017. Emphasis added}[7]
The reason that scientists expect catastrophic damages from temperature increases that economists assert will only slightly reduce the rate of economic growth is that scientists know what they’re talking about when it comes to climate change, but economists frankly haven’t got a clue.
To put it simply, global warming means the disruption of the stable climate that enabled humanity to establish sedentary civilisations in the first place. The manifestations of this disruption will be myriad, from famines when droughts destroy grain crops, and turn Europe and North America into the Sahara—“When combining the above effects, this analysis finds the Sahel is the closest climate analogue for the northern hemisphere” (OECD 2021, p. 152. Emphasis added) —to “wet bulb catastrophes” when temperatures remain above 31°C when measured with a device that takes evaporation into account, which will kill any human without access to air conditioning within six hours (Vecellio et al. 2021).
Which symptoms will strike first or hardest can’t be known in advance. All that can be known is that, when these conditions become the norm, the very concept of “sustainable socioeconomic development” becomes an oxymoron. No advanced civilisation is sustainable under the conditions that further global warming will cause.
The great lie that economists have perpetrated—due to their ignorance of climate, rather than any outright intention to lie—is that we have a choice. We might have had fifty years ago, when The Limits to Growth {Meadows, 1972} asserted that we had to alter our economic system to avert ecological crises in the 21st century. But because we didn’t take that advice—thanks, in very large measure, to economists rubbishing their analysis without understanding it {Nordhaus, 1973}—choice no longer exists. Either we stop global warming, or global warming stops us. “Sustainable socioeconomic development” is no longer on the menu.
Instead, with more than 80% of our energy still coming from fossil fuels, we face a choice between business as usual followed by a chaotic collapse in global incomes, or a controlled reduction—as much as we can control it—with the burden imposed on those who can most afford it—the rich, rather than the poor, and inside countries as well as between them.
Adam Hardy and I independently developed one possible way to enable this: “Tradeable Universal Carbon Credits” (TUCCs) which would be allocated on an equal per capita basis within each economy—as COPOUT28 has shown, trying to get meaningful agreements between countries is simply a waste of time—and which would need to be paid every time a purchase was made (as well as the cash price, of course). With an equal per capital allocation of TUCCs, the very wealthy would exhaust their quotas before they got out of bed, while homeless people would have oodles to trade. This would allow a market to set a market price for carbon—something economists have made a fist of working out for themselves—and the rich would directly pay the poor to buy spare TUCCs off them. As much as 95% of the population of each country would actually be sellers of TUCCs, and the scheme would also put real pressure on firms to rapidly reduce carbon emissions. See https://ecocore.org/ for more information.
Do we think this scheme has a chance of being implemented? Not while people like Al Jaber are in charge of the process. It’s time to cop out from COP.
Notes
[1] See Projections and Uncertainties about Climate Change in an Era of Minimal Climate Policies. The article is free to download and open access.
[2] My report for Carbon Tracker is freely downloadable from Patreon.
[3] See To Slow or Not to Slow: The Economics of The Greenhouse Effect. The paper is free to download and open access.
[4] See Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States. The paper is free to download and open access.
[5] See Global non-linear effect of temperature on economic production. The paper is free to download and open access.
[6] See S14: Estimating different functional forms for expected total direct damage on page 64 of their supplementary materials at Science. The paper is free to download and open access.
[7] See Well below 2 °C: Mitigation strategies for avoiding dangerous to catastrophic climate changes. The paper is free to download and open access.
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Burke, Marshall, Solomon M. Hsiang, and Edward Miguel. 2015. ‘Global non-linear effect of temperature on economic production’, Nature, 527: 235.
Dietz, Simon, James Rising, Thomas Stoerk, and Gernot Wagner. 2021. ‘Economic impacts of tipping points in the climate system’, Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 118: e2103081118.
Hsiang, Solomon, Robert Kopp, Amir Jina, James Rising, Michael Delgado, Shashank Mohan, D. J. Rasmussen, Robert Muir-Wood, Paul Wilson, Michael Oppenheimer, Kate Larsen, and Trevor Houser. 2017. ‘Estimating economic damage from climate change in the United States’, Science, 356: 1362-69.
Kahn, Matthew E., Kamiar Mohaddes, Ryan N. C. Ng, M. Hashem Pesaran, Mehdi Raissi, and Jui-Chung Yang. 2021. ‘Long-term macroeconomic effects of climate change: A cross-country analysis’, Energy Economics: 105624.
Keen, Steve. 2011. Debunking economics: The naked emperor dethroned? (Zed Books: London).
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Comments
Bingo… ..and…this ..is the same thinking that for us here…I would love to be a fky on the wall when some of these economists….realize…they ARE delusional.
Some comatosees never awaken.
Economics works almost exactly like Oprah’s “The Secret” ; that as long as you can seduce people to deceive themselves you can make tons of money. But there is a structural barrier:
For civilization to continue to function only a tiny minority can benefit from “The Secret” at any one time. mwildfire reminds us also that there is a sequence of priority, that there are certain productive activities that must precede all else (production and reproduction), and when these are degraded (as many already have been) the system terminates. As an elderly person I observe these truths in my own body and consciousness: The things that are basic to metabolism, and then the activities that make existence worthwhile, are all slipping away. A parallel thing is near its terminus for our unadaptable species. Do I want to remain cognizant long enough to witness it, or would it be too much to endure? I prefer not to deceive myself (That’s good science.).
Our species is mostly (overwhelmingly) a ‘product’ of biological evolution — though our species’ biological evolution was increasingly influenced by cultural evolution as the emergent cultural evolutionary process sprang forth within biological evolution, making demarcating biological and cultural evolution in our species a very tricky affair!
Anyway, for heuristic purposes, we can say that our species is that which evolved biologically, while culture evolves culturally, through cultural evolution.
My theory is that what went fundamentally awry was our cultural evolution, not our biological evolution —though, again, there can be no sharp division between these two.
Another feature of my theory is that cultural evolution can, in principle and in theory, vastly outpace biological evolution. So, insofar as these pertain to our behavior as individuals and groups, our best hope is for a rapid cultural evolution. And I’d say that this evolution can and should occur mainly in the cognitive domain of cultural evolution. But we’re now up against the metacisis, so the key to good metacrisis theory, I want to say, is to be found in deep inquiry into the nature and possibility of deliberately cultivated cognitive evolution among humans.
I think the key to this cognitive evolution has got to be (very probably!) found in the embrace of relational ontology as a far more apt basic worldview than that of substance ontology. This is so because relational ontology forms the basis of a shift in epistemology and cosmology as much as in ontology itself. So it’s a profound shift in how the human mind does and might function. But, even more crucial, is the shift in our basic experience of ourselves and our world — and the self-world relation, within relational ontology. It’s difficult to be self-centered in your motivations when you know in your heart, mind and gut that you are not in the slightest separate from others and the world/cosmos. That’s the experiential trajectory of relational ontology, which has both a conceptual and an experiential metaphysics.
Issues Franz Boas undertook in the 19th Century. I’m glad to give you permission to editorialize. If my career specialty served humanity at all it was in exploring the impact of choosing cooperation over competition. I am mentally stuck back there with old deaf Ruth Benedict, mistakenly assuming the advancing science of psychology (essentially advertising) would be useful to collective interests. Our perverse focus on money value negated that possibility. Notice how the Humanities faded away in higher education. What was their value once outcomes could be bought? And now we see hard sciences suffering the same fate (Denialism).
The hope of improvement via manipulation of biology is always a false hope (like brain implants).
Maybe Lloyd Austin is a cyborg now.
Yeah, the near disappearance of the humanities, and of liberal arts education, is a catastrophic tragedy all on its own, but couple this with the emerging cyber-centric tendencies in our culture, which devalues face-to-face, flesh-based and close proximal relating and the disaster is magnified to the nth. I was fortunate in having attended a good liberal arts college back in the olden days when these were not almost as rare as a dodo bird.
I’ve had other discussions with you and your classic education shows. I taught 2 summers at St. Mary’s on Maryland’s eastern shore. I used to become so pedantic and erudite that I could barely converse on returning to Johns Hopkins in the fall. I started behaving like Endeavour Morse and liking opera. But deductive reasoning also empowers good inductive reasoning. Forget about using the term Ethos. There are undesired connotations. Just saw a silly film (Paul Giamatti- The Holdovers) about prep school Christmas in 1970 which was very accurate. People always blame students for not being capable of intellectual rigor, but its cultural degradation at fault. Debate forensics would help. It’s been awhile, so now my speech and phraseology sounds like Van Morrison.
I read the article and agree that Nordhaus and his ilk have been captured and co-opted by power. He’s essentially a paid climate denier.
Jody is mobilizing to oppose a ground water transfer in Indiana that would require a decade to fruition. She is right on this issue, but I wonder if a failing seasonality and intensifying heat would allow the water scheme to be completed. She’s a doctoral level engineer and a soil scientist but may not understand how economic cabals are increasingly able to mobilize violence and penalties against their opponents with impunity. This may be a case where Roger Hallam’s advice makes good sense. But thanks for pointing out that sea surface temperature is rising so fast that another segment must be added to graphs.
I think this sharp rise in SST is the first strong evidence that the earth has passed a tipping point. Do with it what you want.
You may be right about drought and heat preventing the pipeline in Indiana from being built. We’ll see. I’m beginning to see first hand that those with wealth and power will come after ‘public’ resources because no one can stop them. Perhaps, Hallam is right, we should practice civil disobedience. I’m not sure what “taking over government” would look like. It seems that those with wealth are simply privatizing social goods and ruling from the shadows. Power will win out in the end.
Of course this year may just be a really bad year and people will somehow survive it clinging to their current lifestyle. The weak and poor will surely not do well. But eventually we give up caring. When we have no ability to change the world, we must simply accept what comes.
Good to see you getting your dander (dandruff) up.
2024 may not be worse, but will probably be no better.
The lithium mine here may never happen but I still try to oppose it actively, just in case.
That press release you shared about the Lafayette region sharing in supposed benefits of a water pipeline sounded like kidding.
So much boosterism sounds the same everywhere.
When you talked about your husband’s employer hiring, I assumed those would be higher paying technical and public relations jobs and that few could qualify, that some head-hunting would be required, opening vacancies elsewhere. But now most upscale employers require non-compete contracts.
It’s difficult to trust when the Sec. of Defense goes in hospital secretly, and aircraft carrier G.R. Ford has to be pulled back because its missile defense is malfunctioning, a crazy Empire provoking wars it is not prepared to fight.
Uncertainty takes its toll. Makes seed catalogs look like gambling brackets.
I cast a somewhat ambitious wager by ordering cherry trees and filbert trees.
Sadly, your points are all too true. Although I have strong opinions on politics I have resisted getting involved. I reminds of walking in deep mud. It can suck your boots right off your feet.
There’s a great deal of difference between wading alone and going with a group having common interests.
You also have good judgment in pursuing issues with material impact rather than those of symbolic value.
Funny you mention muck boots: I just threw away a pair that had become brittle and stiff and were leaking. So I wonder if buying new ones at my age makes sense. But I have decided to buy a used truck of the same make and model and mileage as the one that was T-boned November 28. Living without a vehicle since then in an area without public transportation has been like going barefoot. But it was good research for understanding how difficult life can be for a carless or non-driving senior. I missed crucial in person contacts related to my political issues. I would not have been able to get to court had I been charged in the wreck, but I guess the sheriff would have given me a ride.
Thank you so much for validating my feeble thought process with a reply.
Best fortune in coming months as we await tipping point tsunamis.
Retreat from beaches.
The proposal leaves the public to assume many wishful outcomes.
It’s like a casino commercial.
All that math is quite beyond me. But it’s also beyond the point. If you think that agriculture and forestry are only 3% of the economy and therefore don’t matter too much, you’re showing how thoroughly out of touch with reality you are. Without agriculture most or all of the humans starve–then your unaffected industries have no workers and no buyers. Even corporations, which don’t need food, cease to exist without humans. And the notion that economic growth can be extrapolated forever into the future, so that in a few hundred years we’re all trillionaires colonizing the galaxy–well, you need a quick shot of some antipsychotic drug. If you write fiction based on these fever dreams, it doesn’t belong in science fiction, it belongs in fantasy. The fact that this nonsense is common among economists is possible because their “science” is propped up by the wealthy, who have an interest in neoliberal delusions being stuffed into the heads of the young
I’m skeptical of this explanation of the situation. I believe these pseudo-scientists are actually engaging in the deliberate production of disinformation, not misinformation. Disinformation is just a fancy word for lying.
Furthermore, my research has revealed that mainstream economic theory utterly and completely fails the consilience test as a paradigm of “science,” in that mainstream economics ignores the key theories and paradigms in essentially all of the sciences (of which economics is not one). All real sciences of the contemporary era use consilience testing in both intra- and inter-disciplinary ways. Mainstream economics does not, has not. It doesn’t do this with regard to its own paradigm or its ostensible scientific results. In other words, it is bullshit. But it was always intending to be bullshit from the very beginning.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consilience
When Idiot Savants Do Climate Economics
How an elite clique of math-addled economists hijacked climate policy
Christopher Ketcham – The Intercept
https://theintercept.com/2023/10/29/william-nordhaus-climate-economics/
Speaking of climate change….I’m curious if many people here have been watching the dramatic rise in Sea Surface Temperatures? The orange line is 2023. The tiny black line on the upper left side is 2024 temperatures thus far.
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
This is an interactive chart so you can roll your cursor over a line and see which year it is. Or go to the legend below the chart and select a year. You toggle them on and off. The trends are interesting. Since last March we are seeing a dramatic rise in SST. 2024 will literally soon be off the chart. Something to keep in mind is that climate scientists don’t really have any explanation for why this is happening this fast.
As we listen to the same old idiotic denials and leaders make the same toothless pledges, keep in mind that the earth’s climate will have the last say. This could be a hotter year than last year. This could be a much worse year with respect to wildfires and heatwaves. With the SST this hot we could see cyclones and hurricanes at strengths higher or rapidly intensifying faster than we’ve seen before. Droughts and water resources are already on my radar. Buckle up. It could be a wild year.
Carbon credits and their predicted distribution (less verifiable than the worst crypto currencies) resemble nothing so much as the scrip issued to Revolutionary War veterans that became an object of corrupt speculation by the time of Constitutional ratification, and made the insiders and bundlers even wealthier while old soldiers received pennies on the dollar/or less. Imposed economic schemes are all of a pattern. Take for instance the Laffer Curve (introduced by Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and Arthur Laffer- Ford Administration 1974) used to predict that tax cuts for the wealthiest and for large corporations would produce the greatest possible prosperity. Again and again that strategy of austerity has failed. And this type of crucifixion by power is not limited to economics. Remember lawyer John Yoo’s theories of executive power and torture during the George Bush Administration. Those old quaint Geneva Conventions are holding us back in our War on Terror, Yoo said. The “get tough on crime” theories of surging incarceration so popular with Bill Clinton and Joe Biden are essentially based on an inversion of a consumption model long discredited. Mary (wildfire) says she doesn’t get the math, but it doesn’t matter when the calculations are a smokescreen, and are used to support a foregone conclusion.
We are at a hopeless juncture now. It’s so dire that Roger Hallam of Extinction Rebellion has advised against more civil disobedience, instead proposing that we somehow fabricate an alternative infrastructure for survival outside of government confrontation. What he is advocating is to ignore official planning and law to do what we must. COP28 under this rubric would have less impact than a pop song. The dilemma is that such a counterculture would require its own homegrown program of political economy. We can’t stand on clouds.
My view is that policies imposed by rich interests receive far too little critique and ridicule. The crucial question is how we mobilize and marshall dissidence that has often been an elective activity of relative privilege (in the USA) at a time of wealth concentration and fading abundance. Hallam, and the economists as well, have also ignored the violent and irrational fascism our economic system has fostered as a deterrent to popular will, to protect elite privilege.
Keen writes about his carbon credit trading scheme that “As much as 95% of the population of each country would actually be sellers of TUCCs.” This would depend on how a country allots the total number of carbon credits, which neither this article nor the linked website details. I’d like to learn about this–Steve, can you clarify?