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Vanessa Andreotti: “Hospicing Modernity and Rehabilitating Humanity”

May 30, 2024

(Conversation recorded on March 25th, 2024)

Show Summary

In this episode, Nate is joined by educator and indigenous researcher Vanessa Andreotti to discuss what she calls “hospicing modernity” in order to move beyond the world we’ve come to know and the failed promises that “modernity” has made to our current culture. Whether you refer to it as the metacrisis, the polycrisis, or – in Nate’s terms – the human predicament, Vanessa brings a unique framing rooted in indigenous knowledge and relationality to aid in understanding, grieving, and building emotional resilience within this space. What does it mean to live and work within systems that are designed to fail, embedded in an aimless culture? How do we as individuals steady ourselves and create inner strength before engaging with such harrowing work? Importantly, what could education look like if founded in the principles of intergenerational knowledge transmission and emotional regulation, that are centered on our collective entanglement with the Earth?

About Vanessa Andreotti

Vanessa de Oliveira Andreotti is the Dean of the Faculty of Education at the University of Victoria. She is a former Canada Research Chair in Race, Inequalities and Global Change and a former David Lam Chair in Critical Multicultural Education. Vanessa has more than 100 published articles in areas related to global and climate education. She has also worked extensively across sectors internationally in projects related to global justice, global citizenship, Indigenous knowledge systems and the climate and nature emergency. Vanessa is the author of Hospicing Modernity: Facing humanity’s wrongs and the implications for social activism, one of the founders of the Gesturing Towards Decolonial Futures Arts/Research Collective and one of the designers of the course Facing Human Wrongs: Climate Complexity and Relational Accountability, available at UVic through Continuing Studies.

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00:00 – Vanessa Andreotti Works + Info, Hospicing Modernity

05:10 – Planetary Boundaries

07:11 – Interest convergence

07:38 – Universal reason

08:08 – Epistemicide

10:31 – Huni Kuin people in the Amazon fighting against carbon trading

14:24 – Infinite growth cannot exist on a finite planet

16:12 – Superorganism

21:45 – Daniel Schmachtenberger + TGS Series

23:29 – Theory of Change

38:38 – Wide boundary intelligence

46:29 – Oxytocin, dopamine, serotonin, acetylcholine 

46:20 – Oxytocin and in-group/our-group

47:05 – Oxytocin and co-dependence

52:03 – Identity and belonging

54:01 – Consciousness beyond human conscious

55:28 – Krishnamurti

56:21 – University of the Forest

58:32 – The majority of serotonin is produced in the gut, food’s impact on mental health

1:01:25 – Individualism and Collectivism

1:06:10 – Zak Stein + TGS Episode

1:06:49 – Emotional dysregulation in youth

1:08:05 – Depth Education

1:22:16 – Mental Health crisis

1:25:35 – SAND conversation with Vanessa Andreotti and her daughter Giovanna Andreotti

Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens

Nate Hagens is the Executive Director of The Institute for the Study of Energy & Our Future (ISEOF). Allied with leading ecologists, energy experts, politicians, and systems thinkers, ISEOF assembles roadmaps for understanding how human societies might adapt to lower-throughput lifestyles.

Nate hosts the podcast The Great Simplification, where he has conversations with experts in energy, ecology, government, technology, and the economy to provide a systemic view of the world around us.

After ten years in finance, Nate left Wall Street to study the interrelationships between energy, ecology, and economics—and the implications for human futures. He was the Managing Editor of The Oil Drum, one of the most respected websites for analysis and discussion of global energy supplies and implications of the upcoming energy transition.

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