Vicki Robin here. You may remember that I was the host of What Could Possibly Go Right?, a podcast my colleagues at Post Carbon Institute and I produced from 2020-2023. During that time I was fortunate to interview dozens of “cultural scouts,” people who see far and serve the common good.
One of those conversations last year was with Joanna Macy, the beloved guide and elder who has taught so many of us how to dance through the fire with grief, gratitude, courage, and commitment.
At the time, I wondered if that conversation might be one of Joanna’s last public tellings of her story and vision. But today I am so thankful to share a new podcast called We Are the Great Turning, a moving, intimate conversation between Joanna and climate coach Jess Serrante.
You can listen to the first episode here:
If you like this first episode, please check out the rest of the podcast by searching for We Are the Great Turning in the app of your choice or by going directly to the podcast website.






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Should we be daunted by billions of deaths? Probably not.
We haven't been daunted by billions of deaths we've caused to non-humans.
It's payback time.