Understanding the Organic Certification system is a tricky business, and one often on the receiving end of much skepticism. In this interview between Douglas Gayeton and Fred Kirschenmann, Fred explains the history of USDA organic certification, the trouble with milking 50,000 cows and why the story behind our food means more to some than third party organic certification.
Fred Kirschenmann is a longtime national and international leader in sustainable agriculture. He shares an appointment as Distinguished Fellow for the Leopold Center and as President of Stone Barns Center for Food and Agriculture in Pocantico Hills, New York. He also continues to manage his family’s 2,600-acre certified organic farm in south central North Dakota. He is a professor in the ISU Department of Religion and Philosophy and holds a doctorate in philosophy from the University of Chicago. He has held numerous appointments, including the USDA’s National Organic Standards Board and the National Commission on Industrial Farm Animal Production.