Holding the Fire Episodes

Episode 11

Holding the Fire: Episode 12. The End of the World with Dilafruz Khonikboyeva

Following another summer of record heat waves, droughts, floods, and wildfires across vast swaths of the planet, the injuries done to the planet by the Industrial Growth Society have never been so conclusive. As I grapple with collapse, I wanted to speak with Dilafruz Khonikboyeva, an Indigenous Pamiri from Tajikistan, who has lived through it and come out the other side.

December 19, 2023

Episode 11

Holding the Fire: Episode 11. Reframing Collapse with Lyla June Johnston

How is it possible to maintain perspective on the polycrisis? Dr. Lyla June Johnston, who is of Navajo, Cheyenne, and European lineages, has brilliantly woven her knowledge into her public speaking and multigenre art, inspiring international audiences towards personal, collective, and ecological healing. 

December 12, 2023

Episode 10

Holding the Fire: Episode 10. Dismantling Destructive Narratives with Yuria Celidwen

How do we find true belonging, and true community in the most literal sense of that word? To answer this question, Dr. Yuria Celidwen, from Chiapas, Mexico, combines Indigenous studies, cultural psychology, and contemplative science in her research. 

December 5, 2023

Episode 9

Holding the Fire: Episode 9. Finding Encouragement in Community with Shoba Liban

Shoba is a Boorana woman who promotes health and education in pastoralist communities in Kenya. Her work, and how she lives her life, offer a model of how to continue to serve and do our work, no matter the results. 

November 28, 2023

Episode 8

Holding the Fire: Episode 8. Navigating Multiple Crises with Alson Kelen

In this podcast we’ve heard several people speak of the grave crisis facing humanity today, but from the perspective of how Indigenous communities have been living in these crises for hundreds, and in some cases, thousands of years. Yet, despite facing the most challenging forces of colonialism, they are still here, still persisting with resilient cultures. Alson Kelen, a native of Bikini Atoll, is one of the world’s few masters in the ancient art of wave-piloting. 

November 21, 2023

Episode 7

Holding the Fire: Episode 7. Everything Is Connected with Paty Gualinga

Before we can take the necessary actions to serve and protect the Earth, we must first fully understand and embody the interconnectedness of all things. Paty Gualinga of the Kichwa people of Sarayaku, an Indigenous community based in the Ecuadorian Amazon, spoke directly to this.

November 14, 2023

Episode 6

Holding the Fire: Episode 6. Deep Relationship to the Land with Sam Olando

As the Great Unraveling unfolds, it is almost always the most vulnerable populations, those with the fewest resources, who suffer the most, whether it be from climate impacts, collapsing economies, or dysfunctional governments. Sam Olando from Kenya, spoke to an aspect of this vulnerability that many of us don’t often consider.

November 7, 2023

Episode 5

Holding the Fire: Episode 5. The Delusion of Dominion with Celine Lim

One of the themes that has revealed itself on this podcast is that the problems besetting the planet today all stem from our disconnection from the Earth. Celine Lim, an Indigenous Kayan leader from Sarawak, a Malaysian state on the island of Borneo, knows this all too well.

October 31, 2023

Episode 4

Holding the Fire: Episode 4. Understanding Suffering and Knowing Our Place with Galina Angarova

Given the scope of the crises upon us, have you ever felt a yearning to learn more about living in a culture that is not based on extractivism, commodification, acquisition, and exploitation? It was this question that led me to Galina Angarova from the Lake Baikal region of Siberia.

October 24, 2023

Episode 3

Holding the Fire: Episode 3. Fighting Ecosystem Collapse with Aslak Holmberg

It’s challenging to hear about collapsing ecosystems and the global climate spiraling out of balance, but by acknowledging this reality, we are able to orient ourselves and respond accordingly to the crises.  On that note, I was excited to speak with Aslak Holmberg, an Indigenous Saami who lives on the Deatnu River, on the border of Norway and Finland.

October 17, 2023

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Holding the Fire: Episode 2. Ancient Wisdom with Anne Poelina

More than ever before, it is grossly obvious that the western industrialized extractivist mindset is the root cause of the multiple crises besieging the planet today. I couldn’t think of a better person to speak with about this than Dr. Anne Poelina in Australia. 

October 9, 2023

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Holding the Fire: Episode 1. Indigenous Voices Around the World

This podcast is about bringing forward the perspectives of Indigenous communities from around the world, as all of us, humans and more than humans alike, reckon with the consequences of a global, industrial society built on growth, extraction, and colonialism.

October 9, 2023